Showing posts with label Whatlington. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Whatlington. Show all posts

Tuesday, 29 November 2011

The Planck Era

With reference to the work of both Professor Brian Cox and Andrew Cohen, Wonders of the Universe, a timeline had been designed to adhere to the current scientific theories as to how the universe expanded and formed after the initial event, aptly named "Big Bang". Possible theories may come later as to what created this event, but suffice to say that for the basis of this blog we are more interested as to how two small conjoined villages, Whatlington and Vinehall Street, in East Sussex came to in existence.

Professor Brian Cox and Andrew Cohen have broken up the events of the estimated 13.7 billion years of the universe's life based on both time and the approximate temperature of space (a video of the timeline can be seen here but it will describe the next few posts). 

Gravity, the natural force of attraction exerted by a celestial body upon objects at or near its surface, is separated from the other forces of nature (the other three forces of nature are electromagnetism, strong nuclear interaction and weak nuclear interaction) at a time point up to 10–43 seconds after the Big Bang event. This period of time, thought to be the shortest known, is called the Planck Epoch (after Max Planck).

The next posting - The Grand Unification Era

Tuesday, 1 November 2011

With thanks, more about the Renegades and Philadelphia Turner

You may have noticed if you are a regular reader that there was no posting last week, I apologise for this.

Secondly, if you are an avid reader of the Whatlington News edited and compiled by Steve Turner, you will have noticed a double page spread on this blog. Thank you Steve, this has already prompted a reply to Steve with regards to the piece on the Whatlington Renegades.

I quote from the email sent to Steve, who sent it to me, from Liz Beeching:

"Hello, 
Beechings here, we or rather John  made a banner to take to Battle Bonfire when the children were small (30)  years ago. As he was told off for not asking, he was then later asked if he could turn up with a "new" society next year and thus a bigger banner was made and lots more of our mates joined in.

The Firework company grew out of the above as they got to do the display by default at Hastings, we are the founder members of this society."

So give them a wave as they wend their way through the High Street of Battle on Saturday evening. I have it on record that Steve may be adding more about the Renegades in later monthly issue of the Whatlington News, but I shall also update you on the adventures of the Whatlington Renegades.

On curiously flicking through Google as one does I came across a Family Tree Maker site with some genealogical data

A lady called Philadelphia Turner, who was born in Whatlington (no actual date was given) in 1784, being baptised at Whatlington church on the 5th of December 1784. She was the youngest of eight children of Ted and Ann Turner. She married William Eldridge of Iclkesham in Sussex on the 8th of January 1811 at Udimore church.. She died on the 17th of June in 1861 and was buried at on the 20th of June at Northiam aged 75.

Wednesday, 5 October 2011

November comes

Yes, I know we have only just entered October and what a glorious start to it with balmy weather and the fauna and flora not knowing what to do, I would like you to cast your minds forward to the next month. The month where we remember two days, the fifth and the eleventh.

A few years ago, I wrote an article in the Whatlington News about the Whatlington Renegades. Some of you may ask who are they? Google provides 174 articles about them. They are one of many bonfire societies in Sussex, thirty-nine in fact with seven coming from Lewes. The first Sussex bonfire starts on the first Saturday of September with the Uckfield Carnival Bonfire and ends with the Barcombe and Robertsbridge Bonfires on the third Saturday of November. 

One forum describes the Whatlington Renegades as "in their skins and skulls appear to have escaped from a Conan movie." One website shows a picture of Gerry Glenister's badged tailcoat who used to carry the drum for the Whatlington Renegades, does he still carry the drum? I have found a photo on Flickr with the badged drummer, is this Gerry? 

I have found a photographic blog with some of the Whatlington Renegades making torches for an early bonfire on the 10th of October 1998. Included are John Beeching, Peter Breach, Brian Gasson,  Gerry and Jean Glenister, Eileen LeNett, Min, Roy Robins and Margaret Trowell. This site describes the Whatlington Renegades as a society with no rules or membership usually found drumming at the rear of the procession.

But can anyone tell me who runs this society today, is it still John Beeching? What can they tell me about their history of the society? You never know, we may get something before the fifth of November.

Of course, the other time in November is when we remember the fallen from the wars of the 20th and 21st centuries. Does anyone have a photograph of the War memorial at Whatlington Church? I expect the service will be held at the Village Hall, but can anyone tell me of past Remembrance services?

I have just looked at the audience statistics for the blog, admittedly we haven't got many readers yet, but a waterfall starts with one drop. However we have had five visits to the site from Russia, does anyone have any ideas why Russia may be interested in a small Sussex village?

Tuesday, 27 September 2011

Donation to the Church Appeal Fund

This week, I have been asked by Hilda Aplin, the Whatlington Village Voice reporter, to post on the Whatlington and Vinehall Street Archive an article that was first reported in the Battle and Rye Observer (Friday the 23rd of September 2011):

What a tremendous boost the Appeal Fund has had this week; the balance of it has nearly doubled!

When I opened the post last week, I was thinking about the church's forthcoming Harvest Festival and what I needed to buy. Harvest is a time when we thank God for all the fruits of the earth.

This Harvest time will be extra special for the church this year and we have much to be thankful for; as inside the letter was a cheque for £10,000 for the Appeal Fund. Our generous benefactor, who has kindly donated this money, wishes to remain anonymous.

I am absolutely dumbfounded by their generosity and it means that the Appeal Fund now stands at £28,519.15; more than ever I had expected, in this deep economic climate.

Can I thank the person, through this column (and blog); that is of course if they read this column (or blog). 

I also had a generous donation from Tom and Jacqueline for smaller amounts but still valued as much. I cannot emphasise enough that we all give what we are able to; some can give more or less than others as some people have more than others, but that amount donated does not matter t me. What I think about is the love, kindness and thought that come with the gift!

The Parochial Council were invited to visit the wood yard where the roof timbers (for the church) are being renewed or repaired this week, but it was felt that as the timbers are likely to be re-erected at the beginning of October at the church, that members would rather see the timbers in situ.

This archive will return to normal service next week, but thanks once again to the anonymous donor(s).

Tuesday, 20 September 2011

The Harvest Festival

To those of you reading this, we are now obviously in September with the autumnal mornings. I am often told, by a few fellow villagers, that it is great hop picking weather. Does anyone know what this means? What is hop picking weather? Does anyone know if they were any hop gardens in Whatlington or Vinehall Street. I know there used to be some in Robertsbridge and Salehurst, there even used to hop gardens owned by the Guinness Estate in nearby Bodiam. The website of Bygone Bodiam shows some of the hop gardens. 

Did anyone, in the village, ever use beer tokens or those old clay ginger beer bottles? A photo can be seen here.

I hope everyone, who reads this blog, that lives in the village knows that there is a vineyard. I know of two people, who live in the village used to prune the vines, and I have picked the grapes. Sorry, you are supposed to cut the stalk of the bunch of grapes with secateurs. However with that hop picking weather, a form of foggy or misty morning where the sun's angle is starting to become lower in the sky, means that you will get really wet arms and upper chest from the picking through the foliage to find the grapes. Has anyone got any stories of pruning and picking the grape in Whatlington or does anyone know of any land within the village boundaries where a vineyard may have been. It should have a south facing slope but it could be south west or south east facing. I am hoping that someone will be able to tell me more exacting conditions for a vineyard.

Other activities within the village that could provide produce for a Harvest Festival include a strawberry and raspberry pick your own farm; milk from three dairies; beef from cattle, lamb from sheep; wheat, barley and potatoes. I shall give you some answers next week, but have I missed any produce that has been grown in the village?

Next week, what did villagers do in the village hall? 

Tuesday, 13 September 2011

As September arrives we think of past and present church services...

As the church at Whatlington, St. Mary Magdalene, is a relatively rural church, it may stand to reason that a few of the past services used to be, and still are, based on the more rural or agricultural pursuits or maybe I am wrong - please feel free to comment below if I have got things wrong or even right!

Plough Sunday - does anyone remember the Young Farmers taking a tractor and plough, or was it a horse, to Sedlescombe church? This ceremony is said to go back to Victorian Times, according to the Church of England's Seasons and Festivals of the Agricultural Year, or further still as it could have been used to celebrate the first working day after the Twelve Days of Christmas. This ceremony is celebrated between the 7th and the 13th of January (the Sunday after Epiphany). The document also goes on to state that the ploughs used to be kept in the church during the winter.

Creation - The Church of England has recently created a form of celebrations based on the biblical traditions surrounding the Creation and a date put forward to celebrate this day on the Second Sunday before Lent. Does anyone in the village know if this has been celebrated at Whatlington?

Rogationtide - There are 4 Rogation days including April 25th and the three days before Ascension Day and it was originally thought, in Graeco-Romano days, as a way of invoking the work of the Gods to rid the crops of mildew. This grew into a festival of beating the boundaries of the Parish and the fields as well as a blessing of the land. One such example of this service in Whatlington went from St. Mary Magdalene Church to Leeford Farm then a hike to Maddamswood onto Vinehall and then back to Hancox with the service finishing on the green by the Royal Oak. Can anyone remember when this happened and has it ever been repeated?

Lammastide - often called Loaf Mass, as the service was held as a thanksgiving for the first fruits of the wheat harvest. The first of August was usually used as Lammastide and the local farms would bring their first sheaf of wheat as well baked items using local produce. I had heard that Vinehall Farm would bring their sheaf, does anyone know who else brought their sheaves? I also heard that the local baker, Mr. Honeysett from Mountfield would bake a loaf in the shape of a wheat sheaf for both Mountfield and Whatlington churches, does anyone else know of this tradition?

Harvest Festival or Sunday - This occurs around the time of the full Moon that occurs closest to the autumn equinox (about Sept. 23), which often occurs in October, and was first recognised by the Church of England in 1862. Can anyone tell me what happened in Whatlington Church with regard to this service?

With reference to the Church of England's Seasons and Festivals of the Agricultural Year, a recent addition has been added to create prayers in times of agricultural crises. This has recently included the recent outbreak of foot and mouth in England that restricted the movement of both mammal and person across the countryside, can anyone remember what happened at the church at this time?

As you may see, I have asked a lot more questions this time, so how do you answer these questions, either by sending an email to wvarchive@hotmail.co.uk or by adding a comment below. Thank you. 

Tuesday, 6 September 2011

Alice Carey as well as types of firewood

As September starts, autumn appears with a change in the leaf colour but so does the need for firewood. I came across an anonymous poem called The Firewood Rhyme, which will help you to choose your wood for the fire:

Logs to Burn, Logs to burn, Logs to burn,
Logs to save the coal a turn,
Here's a word to make you wise,
When you hear the woodman's cries.

Never heed his usual tale,
That he has good logs for sale,
But read these lines and really learn,
The proper kind of logs to burn.

Oak logs will warm you well,
If they're old and dry.
Larch logs of pine will smell,
But the sparks will fly.

Beech logs for Christmas time,
Yew logs heat well.
"Scotch" logs it is a crime,
For anyone to sell.
Birch logs will burn too fast,
Chestnut scarce at all.
Hawthorn logs are good to last,
If you cut them in the fall.

Holly logs will burn like wax,
You should burn them green,
Elm logs like smouldering flax,
No flame to be seen.

Pear logs and apple logs,
They will scent your room,
Cherry logs across the dogs,
Smell like flowers in bloom

But ash logs, all smooth and grey,
Burn them green or old;
Buy up all that come your way,
They're worth their weight in gold.

Can anyone tell me, if this rhyme is true?

Whilst we are trying to remember things - does the surname Carey mean anything to anyone reading this.  I cam across an obituary from The Whatlington News, typed on a typewriter by Mrs. Betty Petty, about Mrs. Alice Carey. She lived in the house next to the railway bridge on the Whatlington Road to Battle. She arrived in Whatlington as a bride to Mr. Cyril Carey in 1935. She lived there until 1983 when she moved to Hollington, in Hastings, to be closer to her family. She was described in the obituary as:

"a plump, cheerful person...was interested in what was going on in the village including in the past the Bonfire Society and the Football Club. She and Cyril were two of the founders of the Children Christmas Party Committee, and years later on, Barry, was to become chairman. Alice, a keen and generous supporter of local events, was a loss to the village when she moved. She gave a trophy to be competed for annually by the children, in memory of her husband, a former Parish Councillor. Sadly, like so much else in the village, this now seems a thing of the past. We offer our deepest sympathy to her sons Barry, who lives in Hollington, and Carl who emigrated to Australia and joined the Flying Ambulance Service, and to her grandchildren. Like the trophy, characters like Alice Carey no longer appear on the scene and we are all the poorer for their loss."

I remember both Mr. and Mrs. Carey, although I was quite young at the time. Cyril Carey used to work on the potato harvester during the early autumn and did some gardening at Vinehall Farm as well as other places, I am sure, but maybe you will be able to tell me better. He also worked in the gypsum mines at Mountfield, as did many others. Can anyone tell me who also worked in the mines from the village?  

Tuesday, 23 August 2011

Whatlington on the web

In the front beer garden of the Royal Oak public house are a couple of oak trees. Logical enough. One was planted to celebrate Queen Elizabeth's II coronation and the second in 1977 to celebrate the Silver Jubilee of that coronation. The second tree was protected by a deer guard that came from a piece of land known as North Park, which was part of the Home Farm for the big estate. 

The house for the big estate is now Vinehall School and was home to Lord Ashton who had moved Hyde in Cheshire. His name is recorded as one of the names for the houses in the school with Paxton and Rushton being two others - the former being thought to be the landscape designer and the latter being the name of a large residence within Mountfield. A final house name was added to cope with the increase of pupil numbers. A history of Vinehall School will follow at another time, however you can find a thorough history of the school here.

The house, like many in the Second World War, was taken over by Canadian Troops and once in a while, a piece of history comes back to remind us. During the 1970's, a potato harvester picked up an unidentified object, which got put to one side as more Désirée potatoes came up from the ground. It was only when my father, Derek Elliott (a past Chairman of the Parish Council) came to see the men that he recognised the object from his war days. It looked to him as a piece of high explosive ordnance as it had a splash of red paint on it. He immediately took it off the harvester to the side of the field and then rang the police from the farmhouse. This was a time before mobile phones. It was also a time when the police took bombs quite seriously, their bomb expert would turn up next Wednesday; worryingly, it was only Thursday or Friday when the bomb was found. When the bomb disposal team did arrive in a Volvo estate they correctly identified it as a Canadian bomb; but as they casually threw it in the back of the car, they explained it was only a smoke bomb.

Has anyone else had similar experiences where they found something strange on their land that should be mentioned in the Whatlington and Vinehall Street archive?


Friday, 19 August 2011

First post of the Whatlington and Vinehall Street Archive

Dear Reader,

As you will notice from the title, this is an archive for Whatlington and Vinehall Street. I include Vinehall Street as this should encompass the Mountfield and Whatlington School as well as Vinehall School. The idea of a creating an archive for the village came about after a talk where both Alan Judd and Charlotte Moore discussed how the village survived during the last two world wars from their family's point of view. A conversation started with myself and Roger Fisher about creating an archive similar to Catsfield's archive. This has now evolved into an online journal so that all can see it.

It is open to all, but I would like to see village members add their own memories of anything to do with the village.

On a quick dig into some books at home, I have found the Sussex volume of the Domesday Book. Those that do not know of this, it was a survey created for King William in 1086 and compiled in Winchester.

"Earl Harold held Whatlington. Then and now it answered for 1/2 hide. Land for 6 ploughs. Reinbert holds from the Count. He has 2 ploughs. 6 villagers and 3 cottagers with 3 ploughs. Meadow, 10 acres; woodland, 6 pigs. Value before 1066 and now 50s. It was wasted."

A hide is a measurement of land for tax assessment outside of Danelaw countries and it equates to 120 acres with local variations on the acre. The term "plough"implies eight oxen with the plough.The term "villager" denotes a member of the peasant class with most land whereas the term "cottager" was that of the lowest and smallest class of peasant. The terms and definitions of the other Domesday sayings can be found here.
 
The village was spelt "Watlingetone" in the original text. The above paragraph was also copied into the second edition of Whatlington Parish Remembered (published in the year 2000), which was compiled by Mr. L. Bennett. For those of you who do not have this, I will add snippets from this.

1894 "The First Parish Council meeting held at Mr Ashby's house. Appointed Chairman - Mr Welstead, Vice Chairman - Mr Wordley, Clerk and Overseer of the Poor - Mr S.E. Elliott. Meetings to be held quarterly."

Whatlington Church, St. Mary Magdalene, has published a few pamhplets including The History of St. Mary Magdalene and Embroidered Kneelers.

From the first pamphlet, "The church stands on the point of a spur which projects into the Brede Valley. Here an ancient trackway crossed the River Brede, then very broad as it's name implies, by a ford in a forest clearing, a "leah ford", from which has come Leeford. Shrines and chapels, where wayfarers could offer prayers were often built on such sites."

From the second pamphlet, "Kneeler II: commemorates JOHN de WHATLINGTON, who a native of Whatlington, was Seneschal of Battle Abbey. He became the 14th Abbot of Battle by Royal assent dated Mach 10th, 1307 and he died in 1311. The design is of The Arms of Battle Abbey (as seen in Canterbury Cathedral Cloisters) and it was embroidered by C. E. & J. L. Gould." 

A Seneschal is, and I had to look it up, a steward of a medieval great house.

So you have seen what I have added so far, but I am sure some of this will have triggered memories be they about the Christmas pageant, the fight over a house, the Home Guard; please add your thoughts to the comments. You can also send me some things to put on the blog or the Whatlington and Vinehall Street Virtual Archive to give the blog its full name by sending the articles to this email address wvarchive@hotmail.co.uk

Thank you for your time.
An archivist for Whatlington and Vinehall Street